Susan: I think people need narrative. My daughter has her PhD in philosophy. Her field is aesthetics. She believes we're hardwired for narrative. We need a story, not necessarily once upon a time, but we need to make sense out of things. We need to hear about other experiences. It's not only books. Look, we all know that there's -- this is the golden age of TV. There's wonderful narrative on TV. The series and the streaming series reminds me very much of the era of Dickens and Dostoevsky when their work used to come out as a serial. There's a comfort in holding a book. I think it's also something visual. Even though you get the book jacket on the e-book, it seems when you pick up your iPad or your Kindle or whatever that you're picking up the same book over and over. There's a kind of sensual pleasure in picking up a fat book, a thin book, a large one, a small one, looking at the jacket art, trying not to read the flap copy because sometimes it gives away too much but then succumbing. There's much pleasure in that.