Zibby is joined by psychologist and professor at the University of Toronto Paul Bloom to talk about his latest book, The Sweet Spot: The Pleasures of Suffering and the Search for Meaning. Paul explains the science behind why we often put ourselves in situations that are difficult and what happens that decision backfires as well as how we feel when we achieve the result we were striving for. He also tells Zibby about how he originally got into psychology, his thoughts on how the field has evolved over time, and what project he is working on next.