Caitlin: How do we connect as mothers? Often it’s through shared confusion, complaint, sharing our challenges, and admitting how hard it is. She’s somebody who it’s almost not in her code to do that because of the way she was raised. She was raised in a harsh environment. It is a bit judgy. She’s almost portraying this, “Cannot compute. I don't understand.” She's one of those quietly on it, effective, efficient mothers and people who get it done. I think of her in the book as a good mother.