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Julie Clark, THE LIES I TELL

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Julie Clark, THE LIES I TELL

"That's the fun part about writing fiction. You get to imagine yourself into these roles that you never ever would do on your own." New York Times bestseller Julie Clark joins Zibby to talk about her latest thriller, The Lies I Tell, which was inspired by Julie's belief that women make better con artists. The two discuss what they think about the people sitting next to them at red lights, their fears about making too much personal information accessible online, and whether or not Julie wanted to try any of her protagonist's tricks. Julie also shares her encounters with houselessness and how she strives to destigmatize it in school as a fifth-grade teacher.

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Julie Clark, THE LAST FLIGHT

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Julie Clark, THE LAST FLIGHT

Julie: In 2015, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. It was caught early, thankfully. It was something that I'd always been afraid of. My best friend had died in 2012 of breast cancer. I was always like, oh, my god, what if it happens to me? I'm a single mom. I have two boys. It was always something I was so scared of, and then it happened. It's like, oh, my god, now what? You really do get right with the universe or god or whatever you believe in. You make yourself right with that very quickly. You learn that there are things you cannot control and that you can sit on the ground and scream and cry and say, why me? This isn't fair. But why not me? Why should things be fair? It was really a powerful time in my life. I learned a lot about what it means to be afraid and still move forward. It was transformational for me personally. I'm very privileged in that I have a good job. I have good health insurance. I was able to take time off work and go on disability. It was such a privilege to be able to step out of my life in that way and just focus on myself and my kids and keeping everything as normal for them as I possibly could. I know not everybody has that privilege. I was very appreciative of being able to do that. I really focused on my mental health and my physical health and just slowed everything down. Literally, if you imagine life as rapids where everything's happening so quickly and you can't miss this and you can't miss that, you're just stepping out of the water and sitting down on the shore and just watching it all go by. There's a definite power to being able to do that. I'm not always successful at that.

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